Tim, Darrell, All, Quick update. I removed 3.5.12 and replaced it with R 14.0.0 on one of my boxes. (configured with tmd as the DM) Everything launched fine. (though the default tdm theme had the ugly XDG login instead of the normal tde gradient one) All has worked really well. However, I did hit a bug right off the bat. After configuring panels (menu checkbox to show settings submenu in kmenu) I tried to launch kcontrol from kmenu->Settings->Control Center -- Nothing happened. I ended up having to launch it with Alt+F2 -> kcontrol. Has this been seen before? If not, I'll file it, but it seems I remember this supposedly being 'fixed' already. This is from last nights build. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.