Tim, Darrell, After removing 3.5.12 from a box and installing R14, the tdm login screen is the old boxy style XDG login instead of the new gradient style tde login. The background is the correct isadora wallpaper, but the 'Login to TDE' part in the middle is not the cool TDE login I've had with all previous installs. Did something with the graphics change in tdebase? I really liked the old one and the new graphic is -- well -- terrible. Here is what I got with the new R14 install (it's a picture of the monitor): http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdm-old.jpg Here is what I got with earlier tde R14 installs (this one 3/12/12): http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdm-no-session.jpg I can't figure out what would have caused this to change unless something in the GIT tree changed. I have no idea what graphic to look for. Any ideas? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.