> > Now the remaining problem is I can't get the messages > to appear at all. :( > > I think this can be controlled by kdebugdialog. Yes, but I haven't figured out the process works. I set the following in the global kdebugrc: # KInit debug info off [182] InfoOutput=4 That part seems to be working because the messages no longer appear. When I run kdebugdialog and enable the new 182 area, those new messages still do not appear. I tried changing the global kdebugrc: # KInit debug info off [182] InfoOutput=2 I restarted Trinity. Still no 182 messages. Darrell