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Re: [trinity-devel] what replaced kcmshell applets when kinfocenter removed?

From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@...>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:28:30 -0500
Michele Calgaro composed on 2015-02-25 07:50 (UTC+0900):

> Felix Miata wrote:
...
>> The result is a double-edged surprise. The minimum window widths are
>> nominally narrower, but the minimum heights are taller, and they are
>> cluttered by a needless left column that significantly counters the
>> point of having the individual applets. The old (quoted) and the new
>> (below) have much too much minimum whitespace: 
>> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellTDE14-fonts-132.jpg
>> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellTDE14-xserver-132.jpg

>> The excess approaches sensible as display density increases: 
>> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellTDE14-fonts-180.jpg
>> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellTDE14-xserver-180.jpg

> While I agree that the left column is somehow a waste of space when a
> single control module is invoked, I do not see what is the problem with
> the height of the window. Even in the screenshots you posted, the Fonts
> module is displayed in full while the xserver is somehow using half the
> height it requires and adds a scrollbar inside to be able to see all the
> contents.

You misunderstood or overlooked my use of the word "minimum". Those
screenshots are of minimum sizes the windows would permit, which isn't
necessarily related to the windows' initial sizes, or any larger sizes that
would obviate any need for scrollbars. For my usual use, scrollbars are
*expected*.

http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/b317553kde.png is an example of my primary use of
these modules. Because they can not be shrunken below an arbitrary minimum
size, I usually need to place them  overhanging the right edge and/or the
bottom edge of the desktop in order to limit their display of information
that is irrelevant to the reason for making the screenshot, and limit their
blocking of information I want showing. If they were able to be sufficiently
shrunken I would have considerably more flexibility in placing them.

> Personally I prefer to have a bigger window (if it fits the
> screen) displaying all the contents at once instead of having a smaller
> one but having to scroll to look for information.

That's perfectly reasonable, when you wish as much as possible to be shown in
the window, the opposite of my usecase.

...
> Regarding the left column, could you file an enhancement request on the
> bugszilla to "hide the left column" when only one control module is
> displayed? So we don't forget about it.
> 

https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2378
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