> The primary downside (for me) of TDE when compared to
> Fluxbox and LXDE is speed -- both Fluxbox and LXDE are
> faster with the initial loading, and with loading apps when
> my CPU is under stress; TDE apps are slow loading compared
> to LXDE when my CPU usage jumps up, but they are both
> roughly equal under light load. (I can do some testing on
> this and provide results once I have my new hard disk)

Tim, a while ago you asked for recommendations for post R14 goals. I'd like us to address this issue.

There are a few bug reports addressing speed concerns: 258, 283, 693, 699, 731, and 760 for example.

Yet, even in the pre KDE4 days, KDE3 had a reputation for being slow and bloated. Whether fully true or false is not the point because the reputation exists one way or another. I can attest that KDE3 has always been and Trinity is slow on old hardware. I suspect the problem with old hardware is the hard drive and bus speeds.

My own perception is Trinity seems a tad snappier than KDE3, but we probably can improve a lot more. For example, not a fair comparison (apples and oranges), Xfce starts and exits significantly faster than Trinity. I won't compare to window managers because that would be an unfair comparison.

Although Konqueror can be preloaded, my own perception is that the very first launch of any app is slow. Launching certain apps will always be slow but the desktop itself should always be snappy.

I would like to see us address these concerns post R14. Can we add that item to our goals list?

Darrell