> I think it is still possible to build kde4 without > akonadi/nepomuk/strigi. the result, however, would be quite useless: no kdepim > (which relies entirely on akonadi now), missing basic functionality all over the > place elsewhere. so, not a viable option. Yes, that was my point. :) Possibly doable, but impractical. > looking at kde forums/lists gives the impression, that akonadi/nepomuk and kdepim > have reached a usable state now (from 4.9.x), with nearly > all features that were present in 3.5.10. even address completion in email composer has been reported > to work now, provided nepomuk running correctly and already having > indexed everything :) I plan to give it a go during the next weeks and write a > short conclusion. The ongoing problems with kmail was one reason I never considered moving to KDE4. If those problems are (finally) resolved that does not mean I'll migrate. Only that there is one less obstacle. :) Yes, I receive the impression that the stability issues of the evil three are more or less resolved, but that does not remove their existence. I admit I'm in the minority of people who organizes files in a consistent manner. I always find files quickly, usually in only a few seconds. I don't need this indexing and caching overhead. Yes, those options can be disabled, but for me using KDE4 would remain be a long road for many of the reasons I have shared previously. Not impossible, just a long road. Perhaps I'm just getting old and cranky. My existing system works the way I want. I remain content with how Trinity fits my way of using a desktop computer. I notice the razor-qt desktop has been updated to version 0.5. Certainly an alternative against KDE4, but there are no PIM apps. If somebody ripped the akonadi crap from kdepim and renamed to razor-qt-pim, then I suspect that would create a buzz. I suppose there would be the option of using razor-qt and then building tdelibs/tdepim.... Please do share your conclusions after testing. Darrell