>Kmail here is always online, which, for an enterprise type 
workstation 
>is what I want.  Laptops may benifit from networkmanager, I never 
>have and don't need one more thing to deal with in my environment.

Is there a more simpler method available? I don't see why any 
Trinity network-ready app should key off of networkmanager. Many 
people don't use that app. Online detection should be through the 
core network libraries or the underlying OS.

I don't use networkmanager. I only use POP3/SMTP. KMail always 
starts in online mode, which is fine except when my router is 
offline, which is seldom the case. Then KMail kicks out kdialogs 
about not connecting. I would not mind the kdialogs not appearing 
at such times, but I'm not going to install networkmanager to 
obtain that. :-)

We've had a similar conversation in enhancement request 1105:

http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105

Darrell