>> Kmail here is always online, which, for an enterprise type workstation >> is what I lwant. Laptops may benifit from networkmanager, I never have >> and don't need one more thing to deal with in my environment. > >This is one reason why I would like this feature to use the TDE network >system, as that system a.) falls back gracefully when NetworkManager is >not installed and b.) is designed so that other network backends (e.g. >simply reading ifconfig) can be added in the future. In summary, not everyone uses a wireless connection. :-) We have a place to direct this conversation and patching: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105 BTW, this is a healthy enhancement request but is not an R14.0.0 priority. Darrell