>Not for R14.0.0, but we can look into it for R14.1.0. We will >need some >degree of upstream cooperation in various projects so as not to >break >things like automatic tdesudo prompts for administrative programs. In hindsight, there might not be many changes. I grepped the sources and there are not many || tests. As you just mentioned, Slavek also previously explained to me that some of the || tests are necessary to support non-TDE su/sudo apps. Darrell