>Please note that this might not be all TDE's fault. I have >noticed that >the X server (and possibly the kernel itself) tends to get slower >and >slower from release to release on old hardware. In general, >locking >myself to an old version of the kernel and Xorg on old hardware, >then >compiling new software on top of those old versions, seems to give >halfway >decent results. I agree the problem is not TDE per se. I too seem to believe that Linux based systems get slower with each new release. >However, if you are noticing that TDE is running slower than KDE >3.5.10 on >the same X/kernel versions, then we have a problem. ;-) I haven't tried such a test on my older systems. On newer Linux systems, compiling 3.5.10 now is all but impossible with all of the various upstream software changes that require patching. I experienced that compiling R14 on older Linux systems is impossible without modifying or updating several distro packages. That limits any 3.5.10->R14 comparison to a specific period of Linux OSs. Fortunately, I have a candidate here (I can compile 3.5.10 and R14 on Slackware 13.1) and will give this a test a go. That said what kinds of system or usability tests would be representative? Darrell