On 02/22/2014 12:37 AM, Michele Calgaro wrote: > No problem on my system, ktimer closes correctly. > Debian/Testing amd64 Thank you Michele, I think this is probably related to the systemd user session/process tracking issue as well -- and the fact ktimer was calling "bash showrelnotes.sh". Like I said, ktimer worked just as you would expect, it was just when it closed that the kcrash was generated. I'll tinker with it some more and see if I can narrow it down. I have tested a few other times and: (1) I can open/close ktimer fine if no command is run by ktimer; but (2) If I run a command with ktimer, then when I close it, it crashes. My build is about 10 days old, maybe something was a bit off when I built last time that has been corrected. Thanks for the confirmation. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.