Slávek Banko composed on 2017-05-06 17:39 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> The definition of multi-user.target as I remember it is that a display >> manager, aka login manager or greeter, is not included. Yet, on >> Stretch, TDM is nevertheless started even though graphical.target is >> not reached or desired, and multi-user.target is the configured >> default. The login manager elsewhere than in Stretch is the sole >> characteristic normally distinguishing multi-user.target from >> graphical.target. >> So, the subject question is whether this absence of difference between >> multi-user.target and graphical.target using TDE on Stretch is expected >> and normal? > Now I've checked that tdm.service is installed in /lib/systemd/system/ and > nowhere is explicitly stated whether to be at the level multi-user.target > or graphical.target. The level should therefore be as defined for > Debian's "display manager". Where does one find or make the definition of 'Debian's "display manager"'? Why is tdm running in the following conditions on host big31? # cat /etc/debian_version 9.0 # grep RETT /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)" # ll /etc/X11/def* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21 May 9 16:32 /etc/X11/default-display-manager # cat /proc/cmdline ro root=LABEL=hcs5stretch net.ifnames=0 ipv6.disable=1 noresume plymouth.enable=0 vga=791 video=1024x768@60 # cat /etc/X11/def* /opt/trinity/bin/tdm # systemctl get-default multi-user.target # systemctl status display-manager tdm.service - Trinity Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/tdm.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:tdm-trinity(1) # systemctl status tdm tdm.service - Trinity Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/tdm.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:tdm-trinity(1) # ps -A | grep dm 528 ? 00:00:00 rpc.idmapd 644 ? 00:00:00 tdm 902 ? 00:00:00 tdm 904 ? 00:00:02 tdm_greet -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/