Hi all! +1 for all. Nik Anno domini 2019 Fri, 26 Jul 22:23:43 +0800 Michele Calgaro via trinity-devel scripsit: > On 2019/07/26 02:48 AM, Sl?vek Banko wrote: > > On Thursday 25 of July 2019 17:13:23 Mike Bird wrote: > >> TDE Devs, > >> > >> I hesitate to send this to a do-ocracy when I don't have the time to do it myself but I think this warrants a > >> ping. > >> > >> I rate myself as a software engineer with an excellent track record in (proprietary) database managers, AI, and > >> systems software. I've designed software, lead software teams, and picked up other's failing projects and > >> literally worked and slept in my office to ship on time. > >> > >> But I would never have thought that what Tim did was possible. The solo fork and improvement of TDE was a > >> massive undertaking in which Tim succeeded brilliantly. Whether or not Tim ever touches TDE again I have an > >> enormous respect for his courage, talent, and achievement. > >> > >> But now others have taken up the mantle. > >> > >> The original TDE infrastructure has been broken in various ways for a long time. The stable mirrors have been > >> unable to update for eight months. The trinitydesktop.org domain expires in March and there is no guarantee that > >> the original TDE infrastucture will continue to stumble along even that long. > >> > >> TDE 14.0.7 is currently in PSB. Waiting for 14.0.8 might be too late. I would like to see TDE 14.0.7, either > >> when it goes stable or soon thereafter, on community-managed infrastructure. > >> > >> --Mike > >> > > > > Hi all, > > > > I will try to summarize information on what resources we have now, what is the current status and what are the > > plans that we have. Although I will try to be brief, the mail will be a bit long... > > > > > > 1. Primary site > > > > Here are a number of services that are mostly on shared machines where only Tim can manage it and cannot give > > access to other admins. > > > > + web server + mailing lists + wiki + bugzilla + git repositories - SCM, CGIT + automated scripts for master > > branch + crashreports store + patchwork + quickbuild + archive for mirrors > > > > > > 2. VPS donated by vpsFree.org > > > > This VPS initially provided the mirror function for the GIT repositories and at the same time has the role of a > > highly optimized primary redirector for accessing the package archive. > > > > Currently, TDE Gitea Workspace (TGW) and TDE Weblate Translation Workspace (TWTW) are hosted on this VPS. As a > > result, VPS is now the main place where developers and other contributors work. This allows us to work on > > development independently on the primary site. Git repositories is now not just a mirror, but is bi-directionally > > synchronized with the primary site. > > > > Another thing is that a Preliminary Stable Builds (PSB) repository has existed for a long time and later a > > Preliminary Testing Builds (PTB) repository was created. These Debian / Devuan / Raspbian / Ubuntu repositories > > provide preliminery packages for stable branch as well as packages for master branch => equivalent of > > nightly-builds. These packages are built on builders I have in my management, completely independent of QuickBuild. > > These repositories are now provided primarily on this VPS. > > > > For this VPS we don't have to worry about hardware => it provides vpsFree.org. To manage system on VPS and the > > services we have here, it's me and Michele who can manage it. And here is no problem to add other administrators. > > > > + git repositories - CGIT + TGW - a tool for developers collaboration and manage issues + TWTW - a tool to work on > > translations + automated scripts for all branches + primary redirector to access the archive > > > > > > 3. Dedicated TDE Box donated by Integricloud > > > > Integricloud, a company associated with Tim, has provided us a dedicated hardward box on the POWER9 platform. This > > is a machine with very good performance. Because it's dedicated hardware, Tim, I and Michele can manage the virtual > > machines and services on this box. And here is no problem to add other administrators. > > > > Here is the plan that services from the primary site will be migrated to the virtual machines on this box. We are > > currently preparing virtual machines on this box. However, for the migration plan and migration work we will again > > need participation from Tim, who has been busy for a long time. And unfortunately for some time again is not > > contact with him. > > > > > > 4. Plans for the future > > > > Because problems on the primary site combined with Tim's unavailability are not here for the first time, we have > > been working for a long time to setup alternative services to minimize dependence on the primary site. Currently we > > are ready to be independent on the primary site for services: > > > > + web server + mailing lists + git repositories - CGIT, TGW, TWTW + automated scripts for all branches + repository > > and builders - PSB, PTB + archive for mirrors - reorganized structure, cleaning done, added missing things, for > > example source tarballs for R14.0.6 are here > > > > Thanks to the TDE box donated by Integricloud and VPS donated by vpsFree.org, we currently have good resources to > > provide services availability. What needs to be solved is to prepare a migration plan and then migrate the > > services. I propose that we can gradually discuss individual services to be migrated here and prepare a migration > > plan. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Dear all, > in addition to Slavek's excellent description of the current hardware/services situation, I would like to add one more > thing. > > I believe a project leader should be actively involved with the project he/she is leading, possibly daily or at least > weekly. > I share Mike's huge respect for Tim's work and for what he has done for TDE, but it is a fact that in the last 3 or 4 > years Tim has seldom interacted or followed TDE. > I think the time is ripe to propose a change in project leadership and I would like to put forward Slavek as candidate > to such role. Slavek has been doing a great job for TDE since the time he joined the project and he has been > contributing daily for many many years by now. > > Please don't be shy and let us know your opinion on this point. > Once again, huge respect for Tim and for what he has done for TDE :-) > > Cheers > Michele > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help@... > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...