Firefox did not establish any precedent. The Mozilla people barked and the Debian people jumped. Nothing legal was decided. Possibly the Mozilla people would have won had the Debian people resisted, but who knows? I don't know about what Miguel de Icaza might have said. A first year law student would recognize such remarks as hearsay. :) Bear in mind that right now most everybody is focused on creating a product: form before function. Cmake ports are more important to me right now than logos. :) With that said, somebody probably needs to think about the issue. You might be correct that new logos are needed or are even wise. I don't have a dog in the fight. :) Regarding art work, there is an entire package devoted to that: kdeartwork. You can download the 3.5.12 binary package, unzip/unpack, and then study everything. In that package you'll find screen savers, styles, themes, splash screens, emoticons, icons, sounds, and wallpaper. Darrell --- On Fri, 3/18/11, jamesg@... <jamesg@...> wrote: > From: jamesg@... <jamesg@...> > Subject: [trinity-devel] Trademarks and Needed Artwork > To: trinity-devel@... > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:26 PM > Darrell Anderson wrote: > >Regarding that drawing you refer, I would vote no.< > > It's actually not a yes or no question, but then you're > objecting to the > entire idea in the first place... > > > >Hold up in court? I can't imagine anybody from the KDE > non-profit > organization taking that issue to court.< > > If it came to fistcuffs, trademark law would force their > hand, lest anyone > be able to use it for anything (and Firefox has already > created the > precedent, thus the existence of IceCat, IceWeasel, et c.) > -- but there > are other reasons we probably should have more distinct > branding. As more > people run into KDE 4+, do we really want branding > confusable for theirs? > So they see our logo and assume we're just like KDE 4 or 5 > and use Gnome > instead? (That would make Miguel de Icaza's day -- he > vehemently wants > everything KDE related (this especially includes us) to > cease to exist > last I heard -- my interest in trying out Mono evaporated > when I read that > article...) > > If nothing else, would it not be prudent to have something > to use should > things change and any reasons for not changing it > evaporate? > > > >If you are handy with art work (I am not! :)), how > about working on some > login splash screens for Trinity? Or some wallpaper?< > > The hard part I've been having is FINDING the locations of > the artwork I > consider most urgent to update (the KDE dragon artwork when > one looks at > Help->About Trinity in Konqueror, for a glaring > example). Failing > miserably at this, I've since decided to go with the other > angle and > simply find what I can that needs to be updated. Most > of what I have so > far are screenshots that need replacing. > > If you can find the locations of things needing to be > replaced (K-gear > logos, cute dragon mascots, et c.) PLEASE add them to: > > http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/14 > > Many thanks in advance! 8) > > > Strangelv > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help@... > Read list messsages on the Web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > >