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Re: [trinity-devel] Trademarks and Needed Artwork

From: Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
Form before function? Hmm. I better take a nap! :D

Darrell


--- On Fri, 3/18/11, Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote:

> From: Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...>
> Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] Trademarks and Needed Artwork
> To: trinity-devel@...
> Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:40 PM
> Firefox did not establish any
> precedent. The Mozilla people barked and the Debian people
> jumped. Nothing legal was decided. Possibly the Mozilla
> people would have won had the Debian people resisted, but
> who knows?
> 
> I don't know about what Miguel de Icaza might have said. A
> first year law student would recognize such remarks as
> hearsay. :)
> 
> Bear in mind that right now most everybody is focused on
> creating a product: form before function. Cmake ports are
> more important to me right now than logos. :)
> 
> With that said, somebody probably needs to think about the
> issue. You might be correct that new logos are needed or are
> even wise. I don't have a dog in the fight. :)
> 
> Regarding art work, there is an entire package devoted to
> that: kdeartwork. You can download the 3.5.12 binary
> package, unzip/unpack, and then study everything. In that
> package you'll find screen savers, styles, themes, splash
> screens, emoticons, icons, sounds, and wallpaper.
> 
> Darrell
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 3/18/11, jamesg@...
> <jamesg@...>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: jamesg@...
> <jamesg@...>
> > Subject: [trinity-devel] Trademarks and Needed
> Artwork
> > To: trinity-devel@...
> > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:26 PM
> > Darrell Anderson wrote:
> > >Regarding that drawing you refer, I would vote
> no.<
> > 
> > It's actually not a yes or no question, but then
> you're
> > objecting to the
> > entire idea in the first place...
> > 
> > 
> > >Hold up in court? I can't imagine anybody from the
> KDE
> > non-profit
> > organization taking that issue to court.<
> > 
> > If it came to fistcuffs, trademark law would force
> their
> > hand, lest anyone
> > be able to use it for anything (and Firefox has
> already
> > created the
> > precedent, thus the existence of IceCat, IceWeasel, et
> c.)
> > -- but there
> > are other reasons we probably should have more
> distinct
> > branding.  As more
> > people run into KDE 4+, do we really want branding
> > confusable for theirs? 
> > So they see our logo and assume we're just like KDE 4
> or 5
> > and use Gnome
> > instead?  (That would make Miguel de Icaza's day --
> he
> > vehemently wants
> > everything KDE related (this especially includes us)
> to
> > cease to exist
> > last I heard -- my interest in trying out Mono
> evaporated
> > when I read that
> > article...)
> > 
> > If nothing else, would it not be prudent to have
> something
> > to use should
> > things change and any reasons for not changing it
> > evaporate?
> > 
> > 
> > >If you are handy with art work (I am not! :)),
> how
> > about working on some
> > login splash screens for Trinity? Or some
> wallpaper?<
> > 
> > The hard part I've been having is FINDING the
> locations of
> > the artwork I
> > consider most urgent to update (the KDE dragon artwork
> when
> > one looks at
> > Help->About Trinity in Konqueror, for a glaring
> > example).  Failing
> > miserably at this, I've since decided to go with the
> other
> > angle and
> > simply find what I can that needs to be updated. 
> Most
> > of what I have so
> > far are screenshots that need replacing.
> > 
> > If you can find the locations of things needing to be
> > replaced (K-gear
> > logos, cute dragon mascots, et c.) PLEASE add them
> to:
> > 
> > http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/14
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance! 8)
> > 
> > 
> > Strangelv
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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