On Wednesday 17 August 2011 08:16:37 Timothy Pearson wrote: > >> Second: I was merely thinking out loud. With trolls on this list > >> apparently that is a bad idea; I will save my ideas for the meeting, > >> where > >> things have been more civil. > >> > >> Third: I do not need to break the existing KDE3.5.10 plugin, but over > >> time > >> it WILL break itself. Good luck keeping it running when Qt3.3.8b won't > >> even build anymore. > > > > Instead of accusing me of trolling here you better should recalll that we > > use your > > patched version of Qt3. They are API-wise backward compatible and there is > > actually no need for rewriting anything that depends on purely Qt3. > > API, yes. ABI, no. And API is what we need to have LO working. > Qt3 has several flaws in it that have, over time, spawned nasty hacks in > the original KDE3 (now Trinity) source. > These hacks are a constant source > of consternation for our development team; they cause things to randomly > crash or fail in a nonreproducible manner. No crashes for more than a year here. > One of our goals is to add new > methods to Qt3 in order to clean up the hacks in the Trinity source, > thereby stabilizing the system. Good endeavor. > One of the bugs causes a crash sporadically when the filter bar is used in > icon mode. The cause is a missing visibility set feature in QIconView. > The only resolution is to fix Qt3. There are other examples, but I hope > you get my drift. Good. Is this patch already included in 3.3.8c? > Regarding trolling, you did make a very strong accusation and threat to me > earlier (regarding LibreOffice and contacting the dev team), This is not threat, just a fact. If somebody will try to make contributions that break work of our desktop, we will complain. A similar situation happened recently when the Gnome3 developer made a commit to the Suse settings that broke kcontrol. > and very > strongly asserted that you want to keep KDE3.5.10, which is long dead, > available. Is it trolling? By the way if Robert would advance in packaging Trinity we would consider using Trinity now. > Be careful what you say if you don't want to be judged. I just do not bother with your offenses. > By the way, if you continue to use the Qt C++ namespace you will run into > problems eventually. Technically you are stepping on the toes of Qt4 and > any applications built with Qt4, which is not a good thing to do. Sorry I do not understand this. Which collisions are you speaking about? Collisions of filenames or something else? > This > namespace collision is at the heart of why Qt4 cannot render Qt3 widget > styles and themes, as well as why Qt4 features cannot be utilized in > Trinity. I refuse to halt progress in moving to the TQt namespace, which > would open the door to a number of features including a good KHTML > replacement, just to retain perfect compatibility with the long-obsolete > KDE3.5.10 release. OK. I just do not understand why it is necessary to link with tqtinterface non-KDE and non-Qt3 applications such as LO.