Howdy, first of all thank you all for keeping KDE3 alive and kicking and for providing packages for the various distributions. I finally got too fed up with Mandriva and was looking for a better alternative. OpenSuSE 12.1 is really great, but, alas, there are no trinity packages available, yet. Having seen the F15 and 16 packages I played with that. 3 days ago there was no F16 yet, so I downloaded the TDELIVEF15.iso and share my experience, which unfortunately goes for yesterday's release of the F16 live CD: The CD is severely broken in many ways: * Both CDs cannot launch the live installer from the desktop. It is therefore necessary to open a terminal, allow root to use the X-server by xhost + and start /usr/bin/liveinst manually. * The setup cannot be completed, because the default runlevel is 3. One needs to log in as root and start init 5 to get to the window manager. * TDE does not recognize one's old settings from a previous installation of KDE3. I have linked .kde3 to .kde in hy /home and I wonder whee those settings used to resid, or has TDE wiped my .kde? Not good. * The F15 CD cannot even log into the display manager at all. It is missing a critical package: for PAM, some gnome package. * The F15 CD misses the critical step of adding a regular user. I needed to manually adduser. * I can't get compiz to work at all, no matter what window decorator I use, neither gtk nor KDE4 works. I wish you would add the older compiz 8.6 to trinity, together with kde3-window-decorator. * Laptop management is totally broken. The ACPI-helper setup uses an Ubuntu/Debian specific command, which simply doesn't work on any other distribution. dpkg-stat-override can't possibly work on Fedora. Currently I need to manually put the machine to sleep. Also, /proc/acpi/sleep is deprecated in recent kernels. Please find a way to use KLaptop for SuspendToRAM * Trinity misses a working NetworkManager applet. I currently use nm-applet, but I can't make it reside in my system tray. Having said all that, I am really relieved to finally have an up to date distribution with my beloved KDE3 and I'd again like to thank you all for the great work!