On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote: >> Does it change to something different or does it just >> revert to what >> it was before you changed everything? >> >> If it just refuses to save any changes, then no I have not >> found a fix >> for this. On my system Kate will no save >> settings between start ups. >> >> I gave up and went in and edited the files that store the >> settings. I >> have not upgraded to 3.5.13 yet (still trying to figure out >> Arch and >> solve broken hardware problems) so I don't know if it is >> fixed there. > > The problem turned out to be something obscure. I have a $KDEDIRS directory on my system. For many years I stored my own revised *.desktop files there to fix problems in KDE3. Worked wonderfully all of these years. > > As I mentioned previously, I have used a kludge of sorts to run Kate with the old Projects mode and MDI (multiple document interface). Basically I use kate and kde lib files from KDE 3.4.3 and amazingly, this has worked through 3.5.10. I knew with TDE I no longer would be able to do that. In preparation of starting to use TDE more often, I decided to end my Kate adventure and start using the sessions version. > > After some methodical troubleshooting, eventually I remembered I had Kate configuration files, such as kateui.rc in my $KDEDIRS directory. These files were overriding anything I tried to do in Kate. I moved those files and then finally I could configure the Kate toolbars. The problem was these older config files worked for the older version of Kate and not the newer sessions version. > > I saw some strange things during my troubleshooting. For example, with each new document I opened in Kate, the icon buttons in the Kate toolbar would shift left by one. You had to see this --- like the app was possessed. :) > > Well, I just don't like Kate sessions. Long ago I submitted a bug report/enhancement request to provide the option of using Kate Projects and MDI rather than sessions and SDI. I can only hope. I have the old 3.4.3 code around here on some old Mandrake CDs I think. > > I mentioned with the start options you provided me that Kate no longer would pop to the front and grab the focus unless I set focus stealing to none. Today I noticed a side effect of that. I open my virtual machines in virtual desktop 2 and now whenever I do that the focus shifts to that virtual desktop immediately. Not what I want because I prefer them to open in the background as they take a minute or two to fully boot. Annoying. Yet another reason not to like Kate sessions. > > While surfing the web for clues about what was causing my momentary grief, I ran into threads and discussions about Kate. My observation of these discussions is that to this day, even in KDE 4.7.x, the Kate sessions model is broken and rarely functions the way anybody expects or wants. > > Darrell > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help@... > Read list messsages on the Web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > Thanks Darrell I will check out some of those "obscure" issues. I might have done something like that myself... Keith