2011/11/25 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@...> > > > 2011/11/25 Robert Xu <robxu9@...> > > > >> If the system administrators do this change, how will we accommodate > >> Trinity to it? > >> Fedora is doing it; openSUSE is having an argument about if this is good > >> or not. > >> Gentoo had a discussion on this, I think. > >> > >> Should this be treated like a simple "let's move to /usr/local" or has > >> the renaming allowed us to install side by side with KDE4 without the > >> use of /opt? > > > > > > I have read this proposal some time ago, and even if don't entirely agree > > with it because I don't consider it painless as everybody seems to > > believe, > > I think it can also lead to interesting possibilities. > > It seems that /opt is not even considered in the plan. To me /opt doesn't > > stink :) I think it's a reasonable short term solution, as long as $PATH > > keeps working the traditional way (as it should for a long time). > > Of course a complete rename of every application, binary, lib, man and so > > on, to avoid any name collision with KDE, even installing in the same > > paths, is the true long term solution. But I really don't know if this is > > already the case. Timothy? > > > > Renaming konsole and other applications will be very difficult, as the TDE > userbase is quite familiar with the existing names. If I were to start > renaming these applications I suspect I would have a mass migration to > LXDE or another desktop entirely, as the learning curves will tilt in > favor of a more mainstream desktop. True. Then, sooner or later I think we should resolve name collisions by keeping the traditional names in desktop-files, application names and documentation while altering the names of packages, dirs, libs, binaries and so on. Maybe with a standard suffix (-trinity or -tde?) As an example we will have the package konsole-tde installing docs in /usr/share/.../konsole-tde/ and the binary in /usr/bin/konsole-tde but still showing itself as just "Konsole" to the user (or Konsole [TDE]?) It's somehow... ugly, and it surely needs a lot of work, but I can't think about a better long-term solution for now. In the meanwhile, of course, /opt is our friend, so we have a lot of time to do more important work and think about a better idea. :)