> > I hate JavaScript, the bane of the internet. Bandwidth
> hog and
> 
> > security nightmare.
> yes, but that is life. you must
> adapt to the world around you.

I don't have to do jack sh-t. ;) :) I enable JS only when I want to, which is very seldom.

> Exactly! guys this isn't 1994 and people expect to use
> dynamic websites, Javascript isn't terrible and evil
> when used in good proportion

You have lake front property in Nevada for sale too? :)

JS sucks. Cookies suck.

> Javascript and static web pages are compatible (using
> DOM and/or 
> document.write is not mandatory).
>  You could also use static
> html forms for a comment system, though frankly I'd
> rather use javascript to achieve the same end.

Enable JS all you want but if functionality is not available without enabling JS then screw people who are not on broadband. Many people today are not on broadband because of cost or lack of availability. If the TDE team wants to target people using older hardware as good candidates for TDE, then consider the overall environment of these people.

JS might be client-side, but the scripts still must be downloaded to function. People on older hardware do not have the CPU or graphics muscle in their machines to tolerate JS. I have older machines here that I use in my testing. Those machines can't deal with all the Web 2.0 bullsh-t.

That has always been a problem with computers. Devs use bleeding edge hardware and never test their apps or web sites with older hardware. Most of them have high broadband connections and never test with anything else.

Speaking of which, web devs need to test their pages on smaller monitors. Most web pages these days are designed on monitors bigger than most TVS and when the web page is viewed on a smaller monitor the text is too small to read by anybody with vision issues.

All I'm saying here is don't be an ass wipe with redesigning the web site. :)

Darrell