On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:10:31 -0800 (PST) Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote: > Enable JS all you want but if functionality is not available without > enabling JS then screw people who are not on broadband. Many people > today are not on broadband because of cost or lack of availability. > If the TDE team wants to target people using older hardware as good > candidates for TDE, then consider the overall environment of these > people. > > JS might be client-side, but the scripts still must be downloaded to > function. People on older hardware do not have the CPU or graphics > muscle in their machines to tolerate JS. I have older machines here > that I use in my testing. Those machines can't deal with all the Web > 2.0 bullsh-t. JS is not a big download, it is just C-like interpreted code. Also, I don't agree at all with the "Web 2.0 bullsh*t" denomination you put on Javascript: actually I learnt it with a computer without Internet access and W98/IE4, well before the real Web 2.0 bullsh*t. The bullsh*t is rather big commercial sites with large ads, fancy graphic effects and large images all the way, that always gonna give c*** should they be made in JS, Flash or any another technology. > > That has always been a problem with computers. Devs use bleeding edge > hardware and never test their apps or web sites with older hardware. > Most of them have high broadband connections and never test with > anything else. I think that the popularity of "smart"-phones will entice/is enticing Web developers to make semi-reasonable sites (but which are still likely to knee down a K6-II). > > Speaking of which, web devs need to test their pages on smaller > monitors. Most web pages these days are designed on monitors bigger > than most TVS and when the web page is viewed on a smaller monitor > the text is too small to read by anybody with vision issues. Like for the above point, "smart"-phones have lower resolutions and smaller monitors. > > All I'm saying here is don't be an ass wipe with redesigning the web > site. :) > > Darrell