X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) X Error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) For as long as I can remember, anybody using KDE has seen these superfluous messages in their xsession log. The messages are annoying. FWIW, occasionally I start Xfce for some oddball testing and I don't see the messages. I'm guessing the problem is unique to legacy KDE code. Is there something specific in the KDE/Trinity code that causes X to respond with those messages? You have impressed me many times with your ability to patch the old sloppy KDE code. I think if you could solve this problem you would add one dandy looking feather to your cap! Darrell