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Re: [trinity-devel] [Cross-Post] Meeting 01 Feb 2012

From: L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou@...>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:53:54 +0100
2012/1/29 Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@...>:
>
> On Jan 28, 2012 5:21 PM, "Darrell Anderson" <humanreadable@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Git migration
>> >
>> > Qt3/TQt3?
>> >
>> > CMake - what's left
>> >
>> > Observations/Concerns
>> >
>> > Bugs:
>> > what is high priority?
>> > should we mark certain bugs blocker bugs?
>> >
>> > Qt3 - do we have any problems with Qt3 right now
>> > (performance or otherwise), that we should change? now is
>> > the chance with an ABI change.
>> >
>> > Artwork - seriously, we need to figure this out. Dead
>> > serious. no more joking around
>> >
>> > Website - is this even an issue?
>>
>> How do we audit the bugzilla? What is a blocker to one person might be a
>> non issue to another. For example, a bug related to compiling a package
>> might affect only certain distros. Nonetheless, I think all
>> compiling/building bugs should be bumped to blocker.
>
> Build bugs should be marked as a blocker. It blocks compilation.
>
>>
>> The real challenge is which usability bugs are blockers, critical, normal
>> or just a nuisance? How do we collectively decide that?
>
> I think we mark blockers ones that are fundamentally broken, or something
> that effects a wide userbase.
>
>
>>
>> There are dozens of paper cut bugs that must be resolved for R14. Almost
>> all of them went untouched with 3.5.13. Those types of bugs affect
>> perception of the project. We still have four months to go before the
>> tentative release date, which is a lot of time to address those kinds of
>> bugs. I don't mind if the release date is postponed to quash a majority of
>> those bugs. There are several people involved here who could resolve those
>> kinds of bugs while Tim addresses the more difficult bugs. I wish that would
>> happen. :)
>>
>
> We are making good progress already. A good amount of bugs have been closed
> since 3.5.13 and many more will be. Many are marked Patch available.
>
>> Perhaps we should have a check box in the bugzilla that identifies a bug
>> as a paper cut candidate.
>>
>
>> With respect to the web site, I thought others were working on that. Is
>> that not going to happen?
>>
>
> L0ner has noted serious interest in the website.
>
Fact. I even have a proposal for new layout and undelying
engine/structure. But I'm busy too much with exams/PKGBUILDs for arch
to continue work. I'll work on the website more after I finished
PKGBUILDs.
Oh, and layout can bee seen here: http://l0ner.github.com/html/ Please
note that it is unfinished, I need to polish it a little.

>> tdebindings. Whether tdebindings is overhauled is not as important in the
>> short term as much as everybody is able to build the package. Can anybody
>> build tdebindings? I was able to under 3.5.13 but not since GIT.
>
> I would say the priority is somewhere around that of koffice and khtml. Who
> cares about kdebindings anyway?
>
>> cmake. Just about everything needs to be converted. tdesdk and tdewebdev
>> were started and they should be candidates for the next wave of conversions.
>> We once discussed that we should focus on two to three conversions per
>> release. Unless somebody has devised a fast way to convert without
>> sacrificing quality we probably should remain with that agreement.
>>
>> If we had a cmake conversion how-to at the wiki some of us could help
>> convert packages to cmake. Those of us who haven't yet done that could start
>> with smaller packages.
>>
>> We need a quality assurance check list to ensure cmake conversions do not
>> leave out any component or build option.
>>
>> Regarding window managers, I prefer that discussion take place post R14.
>> We have enough on our plate now. I think I read somewhere that to be fully
>> XDG compliant that any window manager is allowed to be used, but we should
>> discuss whether that is a project goal.
>>
>
> Xdg is a specification. A guideline. Not an API or a hard target. This is
> low priority. An enhancement bug has been filed.
>
> Calvin