> I would move to an Indian ashram and > forsake computing all together, although they probably also > have a few boxes but certainly not with enough processing > power to run KDE4. Funny you mention that option. When I wrote my original response I considered writing something similar. I'm at an age when I see and accept my own mortality. As much as I enjoy tinkering with computers I realize my days are numbered and much of what we discuss and argue about here is insignificant in certain ways. That is, simply abandoning computers altogether is an option I won't ignore. :) > Community based projects keep the end user in mind, and that > is what we need. This is why my preference lies with > projects such as Trinity. KDE3 was an abandoned child, > adopted by Trinity and slowly growing to be a respectable, > viable alternative to the bloated, overweight and overly > complicated (read non intuitive) standards adopted by KDE4 > and other DM's hell bent on moving forward while > throwing caution (and compatability throughout linux) to the > wind. Community indeed! In hindsight, the KDE developers could have accomplished a whopping public relations coup had they spent a very serious three months collecting all known patches, significantly resolving open bug reports, and releasing 3.5.11. They then could have informed users that they polished the 3.5 series in a serious way to last several years until they could release a usable 4.x. They could have (and still can) accomplished another coup by redesigning the three backend technologies to be truly optional. Darrell