> Currently kickoff detects well if kpowersave is running. I thought you patched kpowersave to work through upower instead of hal. Err what? I don't see kpowersave referenced anywhere in our kickoff branch. It actually detects from hal directly. I don't know where you got that idea. > Would not it be a better solution? Nope, kpowersave does exactly what kickoff does, communicate via hal. the best solution is to implement a interface for all programs to access via dcop, that way we can use hal or udev or whatever backend and not have to rewrite the system every time > Previously it used its own daemon, then it was ported to hal, why not to port it to upower? previously what did? ksmserver? > Hybernate/suspend dialog circumventing kpowersave is not good I think. Kpowersave works the same way, via hal. Calvin