On Tuesday 06 March 2012 01:05:33 pm Calvin Morrison wrote: > On 6 March 2012 13:03, Kristopher Gamrat <chaotickjg@...> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@...> wrote: > >> On 6 March 2012 12:07, Kristopher Gamrat <chaotickjg@...> wrote: > >>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@...> wrote: > >>>> On 6 March 2012 07:46, E. Liddell <ejlddll@...> wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:54:19 -0500 > >>>>> Kristopher Gamrat <chaotickjg@...> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@...> wrote: > >>>>>> > On 5 March 2012 23:26, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@...> wrote: > >>>>>> >> On 03/05/2012 09:45 PM, Kristopher Gamrat wrote: > >>>>>> >>> So far nobody's mentioned Bing. I know many hard-core FOSS peoples > >>>>>> >>> (myself included) would never touch it, but many new users might. > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> Good point... > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > I say we ignore it. Don't some of the features require Silverlight? At > >>>>>> > one point they did. My vote is no. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What's Silverlight? I never heard of it. I just tested Bing in > >>>>>> Firefox, and it worked fine. The video previews in their video search > >>>>>> was a bit glitchy, but I was able to click the videos and watch them > >>>>>> normally. All their other search functions (web, images, maps, news, > >>>>>> and shopping) seemed to operate fine too. Although Bing is way to > >>>>>> flashy for me, and does not operate/organize itself in a way that I'd > >>>>>> consider using it, > >>>>> > >>>>> Silverlight was Microsoft's attempt at a Flash clone. For obvious reasons, > >>>>> it never really caught on. > >>>>> > >>>>> While I, personally, dislike Bing and would never use it, I support adding it > >>>>> to the list of search engines, if only to make moving from Windows to > >>>>> Linux with Trinity infinitesimally easier for some people. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Bing also probably doesn't render well or fast on Konqueror, another > >>>> reason to not use it at least until we switch away from KHTML. > >>> > >>> From personal experience, almost nothing renders well in Konqueror > >>> anymore. Google is the only thing that does for me out of the sites I > >>> normally frequent, and it's forced to use the "old-fashioned" > >>> interface from over a year ago because KHTML is severely outdated. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Kristopher Gamrat > >>> > >> > >> Google renders well in Konqueror. It just uses the older interface > >> (which imho is cleaner and faster). Bing is partially broken. > > > > That's what I said, isn't it? > > > > -- > > Kristopher Gamrat > > > > Sigh, > > You said most things are broken in Konqueror. I am not concerned about > "most things" rendering well. I am trying to make sure a very certain > set of defaults render well. Therefore I was being rather particular. I said nothing about being broken. Please properly read what I am saying. This is why many arguments break out on the Internet -- because people put words in other people's mouths. I just said that most things don't render well, I never said nothing about most things being broken. Most stuff does render, just not very well. We do need most things to render well to make Konqueror a viable browser. -- Kris Gamrat