Tim, After rebuilding late last night, I am checking packages today. I reinstalled all tde packages on my test maching and started tde. I noticed 2 things immediately: (1) there was only a black screen displayed behind the ksplash startup screen, not the background set in kcontol -> Login Manager; and (2) ALL WINDOW DECORATION IS GONE - poof - missing?? Here is a screenshot of the tips dialog: http://nirvana.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tde-no-decor.jpg I went to kcontrol -> appearance -> window decoration and all window decorations are listed as being available, but selecting one and hitting 'Apply" has no effect. No window decorations appear. I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting this one. No .xsession-errors was ever created. IIRC, this is a tdelibs issue However, that is SMALL POTATOES - not starttrinity - doesn't start trinity :) The splash screen gets to the 'hard drive icon' (Initializing system services) chugs away for a while and then tde commands an xserver shutdown. Looking at the first shutdown, there was a complaint about no xset, xsetroot, and xprop. Here is the screenshot: http://nirvana.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tde-starttrinity-crash.jpg So I installed xorg-xset, xorg-xsetroot and xorg-xprop (funny, it ran fine before without them). I then tried starttrinity again, and it failed with the same behavior. (However, this time I did get a blue background color behind the ksplash dialog on statup) It got stuck on "Initializing system services" and then crashed: http://nirvana.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tde-starttrinity-crash1.jpg The main issue I see is the dcopserver already running error - but looking at /home/david -- there is no .DCOPserver_tdepv__0 file. So I don't know what the heck is going on. I'm pretty much stuck on this one. Is there some change over the past few days that could explain this behavior?? Is it a change in ksyscoca or something similar causing the read of the old sysconfig cache to cause the crash? I tried deleting /var/tmp/kdecache-david and it did not help. Anybody else seeing this with last night's builds? How to debug and get more info?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.