> This is not with Kickoff. It's the > standard menu. I'm also in 3.5.13 and this bug was > reported in 3.5.12 and so shipped in 3.5.13? Many bugs reported in 3.5.12 were not resolved in 3.5.13. At the pace we're going, unless some additional C++ coders step forward to help, many of those bugs might remain unresolved. :( To which bug report number are you referring? Darrell