>   I guess the question is "does the libtool in tde need
> to be updated?" ..or.. is there some way to just to bypass
> the version inconsistency?  It might be arch that is
> having issues today, but it will be the remainder of the
> distros that have the issue after a libtool update. I have
> tried several times to get familiar with cmake conversion,
> but as of today, I don't have the tools to tackle something
> like tdeutils. I don't know if that would provide a better
> solution than trying to fix libtool or how much work that
> would be.
> 
>   What are the thoughts of the experts?

First thought is I am not an expert!

Second thought is according to the instructions at the wiki, the way to use libtools is to use the libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh installed on the system to regenerate the files and not the files provided in each module's sources. Therefore we don't really use libtools from any upstream sources. Are you doing that?

Third thought is although I appreciate your frustrations, seems to me the immediate focus for R14 should be the bug tracker and not bleeding edge I want-my-system-to-crash every-other-day distros. Perhaps roll back your system to a previous version and likely most or all of these problems disappear? Yes, we still need to address the problems --- down the road after R14, but bleeding edge rolling distros should not be dictating project focus. We can't keep pace now let alone with bleeding edge.

Darrell