On Sunday 29 of April 2012 18:42:34 Martin Gr��lin wrote: > The Trinity Desktop Environment is a fork of KDE 3.5. KDE 3.5 used as > desktop shell KDesktop and Kicker and as a window manager KWin. TWin is > the fork of this version of KWin. Obviously KWin is very well integrated > with the rest of the desktop environment (e.g. uses same toolkit) and > has been developed especially for the needs of this environment in > comparison to things like openbox which is actually a standalone window > manager and includes things you don't need. Using openbox will therefore > result in higher RAM consumption than using KWin. > So you said this very descriptive! KWin4 is tightly integrated with rest of desktop environment == KDE4 (uses the same toolkit, etc). And just as TWin is tightly integrated with rest of desktop environment == TDE (uses the same toolkit, etc). Each lives in a different environment. KWin is NOT integrated with TDE and includes things that we do not need. Using KWin4 means outside TQt3 still have QT4 tooklit == higher RAM consumption than using TWin. Sl�vek --