> It could be d3a9d561, though I don't know how. I > assume you rebuilt tdelibs, then rebuilt all the other packages against > it? d3a9d561 introduced an ABI incompatibility. Yes, that patch is the cause. I rebuilt tdelibs and reversed only that patch. I then rebuilt tdebase too. No more crashing. So now I need to learn why debugging symbols are not working for me so I can create a backtrace. :-( Darrell