Time for a long email (didn't make it long on purpose, just had too much to say):
 
Believe it or not, there are people that try to avoid GTK, and last I checked Chrome uses GTK.

I do too but sometimes it is not worth the effort. Plus, there is too much browser fragmentation already, although WebKit has managed to bring everyone closer together, IMO.
 
I personally prefer Qt. The only reason I use Firefox over Konqueror is for site compatibility (I could never get Gmail and some other sites to display right in Konqueror). Older versions of Flash (up to version 9) do work in Konqueror, but this causes problems for videos using newer versions of Flash. I have noticed, though, that Youtube works fine on my Wii's Opera-based browser using Flash 7 (it is provided by the Wii Shop Channel and the Wii doesn't allow me to browse the filesystem, so I can't upgrade Flash). Outside of Youtube, I don't visit sites using Flash, and the ones that use Flash get them blocked by one of my plugins. The only other GTK app I use is Pidgin, and only because it has better support for file transfer. I like Kopete much better, and Konqueror fits in with my KDE theme much better than Firefox, so if it could render sites better, I'd use that instead.


The gtk-engines-qt isn't actually bad in making it fit but the version that works with KDE3/Qt3 has some problems that need fixing, especially regarding tickboxes.
 
When she referred to customizing Konqueror, I think she was referring to the options that are built-in (go to KDE Control Center and select Internet & Networking, or open Konqueror and go to the Settings menu then choose Configure Konqueror). It has more built-in features without the use of plugins than any other browser I've used. The reason Knoqueror is lacking in the plugins is because browsers like Firefox and Internet Exploiter (Exploder?) caught people's attention first, so sites are developed mainly for these browsers.


Fair enough. 
 
Konqueror has worke well for me as FTP. Of course, I don't do much FTP, and it's rarely to upload stuff (I use SFTP (FTP through SSH) on a webserver). Perhaps if you file a bug report for Trinity about what Konqueror isn't doing right with FTP, it could get fixed at some point.


Will do when I see it again, I've had the fortune of not having to deal with those FTPs for some time now that I don't even remember exactly which ones they were.
 
I've heard good things about WebKit, and I believe there is a Qt version of WebKit. I haven't used it before, but it is based on KHTML and is what Safari uses, so perhaps we could find a way to use it to replace KHTML (I've heard rumors that's possible)?


I think it's Qt4 only based.
 
As for Chrome, I keep seeing references to it being Proprietary Software. For those of us who are Free Software Purists (I've been working toward ridding myself of Proprietary stuff), Chrome isn't a rea option. While it is a good browser for users of Proprietary Software who want a lean interface, it is a good browser. But for those of us who are purists, Chrome won't cut it.


Chrome is similar to Firefox AFAIK, but Chromium is the same thing and is free software, which is the one I use.
 
I will be learning how to program in Qt/C++, and I'll be starting within the next couple days. It will be on my own time (and there isn't much of it, so it could take awhile), though provided I can use another browsing engine like WebKit or Mozilla's Gecko, I'd be willing to write a Free Software browser based on Chrome (not exactly a clone of Chrome, just something with a lean, configurable interface). Provided that tqtinterface is working by the time I eventually get it to a usable state, we should be able to use it in Trinity. Personally, though, I don't like overly-lean or overly-simple. I need a menu bar,

It's hidden but there.
 
toolbar (back, forward, refresh, stop, home, and URL bar, and a search bar is a plus).

The search bar is embedded in the URL Bar. As for the rest, only the home button is missing. Plus, it gives you more vertical space in smaller devices.
 
tab bar, and status bar, and Chrome was missing the menu bar and toolbar, and I seem to remember the Chrome status bar disappearing whenever it was idle (something that I found annoying). There is probably a way to change this, I never bothered to look though.


The status is a good point, even though I don't particularly miss that. I'm all for the "more vertical space approach", especially in this era of wide screens.

Best regards,
Tiago
 
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