All,

  I couldn't make the meeting today, but did read the logs. One note I have was
concerning the discussion regarding systemd and whether some distros will move
to it and some not. I want to make sure the issue isn't confused. Not everyone
will move to the systemd init systems, but everyone _will_ move to the systemd
package that provides udev. Arch separates systemd-tools to provide udev. My
guess is that most distros will do something similar to provide a udev package
from it's new upstream. Just know that udev from systemd isn't the same as
adopting systemd init structure. Arch has no plans to move to systemd. Init
scripts further the KISS philosophy, and systemd, while it provides a number of
new tools, it doesn't provide anything necessary to get your box going that your
current sysV or bsd style inits don't.



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David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.