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Month: July 2012

Re: [trinity-devel] Rosegarden

From: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:01:41 -0500
On 07/31/2012 10:58 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
>> >3. It does NOT require Qt4.
> I do not see this as a bad thing. I think arguing that using Qt4 over
> Qt3 is not enough to keep a program around. A toolkit is simple what
> the program utilizes to display things, it doesn't have much to do
> with functionality... which leads to my next point.

I'm not arguing that Qt4 is bad -- I don't think it is, there are a couple of 
apps I have that must have it (keepassx for one). However, give the choice, I 
prefer Qt3 apps due to the look and feel (and if column handling is at issue 
-- the Qt3 apps work..)

>> >4. It works very well in its current form.
> It doesn't! it is not up to scratch with the current rosegarden
> project. It's a dead standstill from where they were 4 years ago. This
> is sort along the lines of the KWin thing, except there is no huff and
> puff about depending upon KDE4. In fact, we will be depending on Qt4
> eventually I see it as even less of an issue.

Well, to be fair, this is where I must qualify my answer. "It does everything 
I need it to do :)"  Which means it opens and runs without crashing. (after 
you load the modules) If there are new features, then I don't miss them :)

>> >It's not a question of why do we still sunport it - there has been almost no
>> >support required.
>> >
>> >The question is: "When should we stop supporting it?"
>> >
>> >Answer: "When a core library change breaks the rosegarden GIT tree API/whatever
>> >and where the amount of support required exceeds what someone is willing to do
>> >to preserve it in its current form and decides to port the upstream version to
>> >TDE..."
> Well that's another thing... current Rosegarden doesn't need to be
> ported to TDE. it already works great in TDE! I use it frequently for
> my home studio.

What is it that the Qt3 based rosegarden in the GIT tree doesn't do?

I mean I'm not stuck on it and if the upstream version will work fine (and 
look right), then I don't have any heartache over using it.

What does the new one do that the old one doesn't -- other than not popping up 
the 'New version available dialog' on start each time?

>> >This is one of those -- you don't just run out an buy another dishwasher for the
>> >heck of it things,.... you wait until the one you have breaks and the cost of
>> >repair exceeds the cost of a new one :)
> Except that we are not talking about physical hunks of metal and
> wiring which cost hundreds of dollars to replace. We are talking about
> something along the lines of
> apt-get remove rosegarden-trinity
> apt-get install rosegarden
> Calvin

David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.