> http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/kdm-chooser-OK.jpg > > That has been it this whole time!! When did tsak > begin killing the graphical login? Moreover, why did that "Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to begin" > (pop-under) the main xdg chooser window so many time before it finally gave me > the dialog? I must have started tdm/kdm 15 times and it never gave me the > "Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to begin" before. That's weird... > > Oh, well, at least we know what the culprit. Serious work went into updating tsak after 3.5.13. I don't know all of the patches but there were many. I don't know whether those patches can be backported. Check bug reports 898 and 906 for most of the fixes. Darrell