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Re: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements

From: Slávek Banko <slavek.banko@...>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:05:34 +0200
On Wednesday 19 of September 2012 19:35:30 Alexis PM wrote:
> Hello
>
> In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my experiences with TDE
> starting from a clean install of Debian Squeeze minimal (within X) from the
> viewpoint of a Spanish desktop user. The problems, pitfalls or things I've
> found are improving (I report all as bugs in the bug tracker to be
> systematic):
>
> 1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several languages ​​without
> much problem, I think there are collaborators with enough time and desire
> to make it viable. A call to collaborators through the mailing list to
> create working groups could be. I offer to help as Spanish-spoken.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220
>
> 2. Debian installation intructions improvements:
> * Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by default, like most
> distros. If you're a newbie and follow to the letter the instructions, the
> lines with "sudo" not work
> * Lack reference to the translation packages, example "For Spanish
> translate, apt-get install kde-trinity-i18n-es"
> * For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it shoul be indicate in the
> intructions as "if you have a laptop..." or similar.
> * A graphical network manager as network-manager-kde-trinity is very util,
> it shoul be indicate in the intructions as "if you want to have a graphical
> network manager and you are not using a other as wicd, you..." or similar.
> May notice about network-manager versions incompatible with
> network-manager-kde-trinity.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221
>
> 3. Applications of interest:
> * Kmix should be in the System Tray.
> I don't report, I think is reported in
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503
> * IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the default TDE
> installation, are useful for the general public.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
>
> 4. Kpersonalizer:
> * Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the windows or
> close/maximize /minimize buttons.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223
> * Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having chosen Spanish. I
> can help with it.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
> * Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in Kpersonalizer. I
> have to do KControl > Keyboard Layout > Enable keyboard layout & Show
> indicator for single layout.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224
>
> 5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a complete Spanish
> translations. For example, "Hibernate computer" and "Suspend computer" in
> the "End session" window.
> I can help with it.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
>
> 6. KDM problems:
> * KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen. I think I
> solved it with KControl > System admin > Login manager > Apparance >
> Compositor: Trinity compositor. If choosing Trinity Compositor solve the
> problem, the package should  be reconfigured to do it by default.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226
> * "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't work, just a
> black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-F6, the
> KDM window is visible very briefly. I read something similar, related with
> graphic card (this is a Nvidia, and use the nouveau driver), I don't know.
> Related: In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD distro with TDE as desktop
> environment: * In a live session, if you choose "Change session" in the TDE
> exit dialog, you find a KDM login window answer you about user name and
> password - could be auto-restart
>  the TDE desktop
> * In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window option "Reboot" don't
> work, the system stays in terminal login (you can insert your user name and
> password, and the
> system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx" :P )
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1227
> Possible related with
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59
> and
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419
>
> 7. Sudo problems: In a recent mail ( "Clean TDE of Kubuntu references",
> http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9879 ) I did a review of the
> problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences dragged by TDE project, as
> sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE 3.5  original. A set of new
> sudo-related bugs:
> * Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser > Konsole: a Konsole window
> appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a Debian (no-sudo)
> system, therefore neither user password (user is not in /etc/sudoers)
> neither root password (demand sudo) work. Konqueror as root in the "T >
> System > SuperUser" dialog works well.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228
> * In T > System, other applications as KPackage open, but for a action ask
> for "SUDO password", and again neither user password neither root password
> work. But KUser in T > System work well with root password.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229
> * I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System don't work to enter the
> root password. Synaptic via "Run command" answer "KDEInit could not launch
> 'su-to-root': could not find 'su-to-root' executable". However, "kdesu
> synaptic" works well.
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230
>
> 8. I suggest the following changes in file associations (in Konqueror:
> Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
> * Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler
> * Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
> http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
>
> Thanks!
>

Alexis,

Thank you for your detailed research. I believe that you will find some of 
these problems resolved in upcoming release 3.5.13.1. Issues that remain 
unresolved in 3.5.13.1, we leave to solution later - they will not block 
release 3.5.13.1.

I am glad for your interest in translations to Spanish. Do you think you 
managed to get one more volunteer with whom you could revise translations of 
each other?

Thank you for your efforts, interest
and look forward to further cooperation.

Slávek
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