On 02/22/2014 05:37 PM, Darrell wrote: > Interesting picture. The fact that the alleged help file opens means little. > > So now add another item to the check list: > > * The app supports a standard help handbook docbook format (not a > I-am-a-lazy-ass-developer html file). > > These lazy-ass html files do not satisfy any of the help handbook criteria. > There is no docbook file. > > krename and kdbg fall into this same category. > > Somebody with some serious scripting savvy could help by creating a > conversion script. I have search the web and nobody has anything of quality > to convert html to docbook. There are some distinct advantages to html over docbook, especially for any large help files. I much prefer being able to scroll up/down and quickly find the information I need rather than trying to click Next/Back/Up/Home trying to hop around getting from point A to B in docbook. Now docbook indexing is an advantage over HTML, but HTML provides a distinct advantage in usability. Testing kxmleditor, I select Help from the Help menu and a very clean and complete help document appeared. The average user doesn't care what format the underlying information is contained in, they just want good and useful help when they press [Help]. As for as a conversion script goes, it shouldn't be that hard to develop. I'll look at it when I get systemd done. I say the docbook standards in the admin or one of the other guides in the past day or so. Honestly, providing both wouldn't be a bad idea, especially for the longer manuals if that is possible. I don't know if they conflict with each other, but I found myself earlier using meinproc to change the administrative-guide back to html for just these reasons. It is almost impossible to hop back and forth effectively in docbook, but it is simple to grab the scrollbar on the window and move from the top to bottom, or any point in between, with the html file. I think for all all core-tde modules, docbook is a 'must have', but for all the non-core modules it becomes much more of a 'nice to have' as long as good help is available when you press F1. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.