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Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Re: VCardConverter parseVCard problem

From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 22:40:16 +0000
On Thursday 17 March 2016 19:06:00 deloptes wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > Why not just use Slávek's Preliminary Stable Builds repository instead of
> > the ones you have?  It would solve your problem immediately for very
> > little effort.  I switched some while ago because I wanted a patch fast
> > and have never looked back.  It is great!  You get exactly what will be
> > going into 14.0.4, but you get it sooner.  And come the release of 14.0.4
> > you won't need to upgrade because you will already have it.  Note the
> > "Stable" in the name. ;-)
> >
> > Lisi
>
> I don't know - this is new to me and the steak is big as I can not risk, so
> I had to investigate pro and contra but never got the opportunity to do so.
> Since I have time to follow up the list closer, it was in some sort of
> transition, but I think now it settled down.
> If you have some information to enlighten me, this would be nice.

What would you like to know?  Debian users are apt to see Slávek's Preliminary 
Stable Builds repository as the equivalent of Testing, but that is wrong.

Assuming that you go on using 
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
jessie main
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian
jessie main
deb
and that you update and upgrade regularly, then when 14.0.4 is released you 
will get all the new packages and patches in one fell, quite large swoop.  If 
you don't want then you will have to stop upgrading or comment out the 
Trinity repositories.

Those packages and patches are not prepared suddenly over-night.  They are 
gathered up over time and stored until it is time to release them.  It is 
Slávek who stores them.  (I think only Slávek, but possibly not only Slávek).

If you change to:

deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14
deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14

then as the bug patches and new packages are ready, you will get them 
immediately.  Exactly the same ones as you would get later in 14.0.4 when it 
is released.  Mostly bug patches.  As with Debian Stable, new things are 
_mostly_ reserved for the next major release and it is bug fixes which are 
released meanwhile.  So the only difference is when you get them.  As there 
is no such thing as  software without bugs, presumably there are occasionally 
bugs in the bug-fixes, and presumably they are occasionally found and put 
right. 

But I do not see what you would have to lose if you want a patched package 
urgently.  What you are doing now strikes me as just possibly being able to 
mess up your system.  Not very likely, but more likely than stuff released by 
Slávek, since that has been tested elsewhere, and its tested dependencies 
worked out, before it reaches your system.  The Preliminary Stable Builds 
repositories are no more risky than any other upgrade.

I'm not sure if that has answered your questions at all.  Just ask, if it 
hasn't.  But if you want a particular bug fix to a particular package, and 
Slávek has the patch, this is in MHO the safest, and certainly the quickest 
and easiest, way to get it.

Lisi