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Month: November 2011

Re: [trinity-devel] Fedora experience

From: Francois Andriot <francois.andriot@...>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:54:20 +0100
Thanks for reporting the issues. I am the Redhat/Fedora packager.
I haven't announced (yet) the availability of the Fedora LiveCD, 
precisely because there are broken things that I want to solve.
Also, since Fedora 16 is out, I will delete the Fedora 15 LiveCD which 
is now useless.

My answers are below.

Le 11/11/2011 15:53, Peter Lemken a écrit :
> * Both CDs cannot launch the live installer from the desktop. It is therefore
> necessary to open a terminal, allow root to use the X-server by xhost + and
> start /usr/bin/liveinst manually.
I've already sorted out the problem. It will be solved in the next F16 ISO.

> * The setup cannot be completed, because the default runlevel is 3. One needs to
> log in as root and start init 5 to get to the window manager.
This one is already solved too .

> * TDE does not recognize one's old settings from a previous installation of
> KDE3. I have linked .kde3 to .kde in hy /home and I wonder whee those settings
> used to resid, or has TDE wiped my .kde? Not good.
As a personal choice, I have hardcoded "~/.trinity" as settings 
directory for TDE. It is set in /opt/trinity/bin/startkde .
So if you have directories ~/.kde and ~/.kde3, they will stay in place 
without being modified.

> * The F15 CD cannot even log into the display manager at all. It is missing a
> critical package: for PAM, some gnome package.
> * The F15 CD misses the critical step of adding a regular user. I needed to
> manually adduser.
Yes, I found these 2 too.
It will work in the next F16 LiveCD.

> * I can't get compiz to work at all, no matter what window decorator I use,
> neither gtk nor KDE4 works. I wish you would add the older compiz 8.6 to
> trinity, together with kde3-window-decorator.
Some times ago I looked into using Compiz with TDE, but recent Compiz 
packages are missing the "kde3" window decorator, which is obsolete.
I managed to recompile it, but it did not work at all.
I gave up since it was not my priority. (I do not use compiz)

> * Laptop management is totally broken. The ACPI-helper setup uses an
> Ubuntu/Debian specific command, which simply doesn't work on any other
> distribution. dpkg-stat-override can't possibly work on Fedora. Currently I need
> to manually put the machine to sleep. Also, /proc/acpi/sleep is deprecated in
> recent kernels. Please find a way to use KLaptop for SuspendToRAM
Nice catch. I will have a look but I'm not a developer and I have no 
idea why it needs to use a Debian command.

> * Trinity misses a working NetworkManager applet. I currently use nm-applet, but
> I can't make it reside in my system tray.
I believe this (having a network manager applet for TDE) was discussed 
before on the mailing list, but I do not remember the conclusion.
You can parse the archives to get some answers.

> Having said all that, I am really relieved to finally have an up to date
> distribution with my beloved KDE3 and I'd again like to thank you all for the
> great work!
Thanks for your reports - they will help making TDE better

Francois Andriot