On Monday 13 February 2012 12:23:22 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > On Monday, February 13, 2012 12:04:42 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> >> I ask you this: If QWidget is so stable (i.e. did not change much
> >> between
> >> Qt3 and Qt4), why do Qt4/KDE4 applications always use more screen space
> >> to
> >> display less information?
> > they don't; but where there is more whitespace usage it's due to the
> > QStyle. a
> > QStyle that using the same pixelmetrics as you are familiar with from Qt3
> > would have the same layout and proportions. few people like that, however,
> > so
> > there are few styles as cramped.
> >> Why do KDE4 applications tend to require more
> >> mouse clicks for each operation?
> > they don't. see how easy it is to make assertions when no supporting facts
> > are
> > required?
> > well, here: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/01/gwenview-user-friendly.html
> >> Can you state 100% that the Qt4 developers did not modify widget
> >> parameters to be touch friendly?
> > yes, i can. you may recall i worked at the same company as these guys for
> > 6
> > years, the years that happen to be in question.
> >> You would have needed to be on the Qt4
> >> development team to be able to state this. :-)
> > unfortunately for you, i worked with them extensively during this time
> > period.
> > i saw new things before others did, i worked with APIs before others did,
> > i
> > had long discussions with the developers as they were working on things.
> How is that unfortunate for me? It is good to know the truth!
> I already know the whitespace is embedded in the widget metrics. If I
> needed to I could fix that one problem programatically, but it still
> leaves all the others open.
> Remember I said *almost* all applications? There are a handful that have
> finally grown up and become better than the KDE3 originals, but right now
> the only one I can think of is krdc. It took many years, and their
> presence frankly does not justify using the rest of KDE4.
> Also, you are trying to tell me that e.g. changing to the /media/flash
> directory requires fewer clicks in Dolphin than in Konqueror? In
> Konqueror it would take exactly two mouse clicks, and if media/ was
> already expanded it would take one click. In Dolphin I don't even know
> where to begin, other than poking around trying to get my location bar
> back. Heck, I don't even know where to begin looking for that
> configuration option.
in Dolphin it takes one click because media devices are listed in the side bar
> KDE4 has serious discoverability issues which are separate from the ease
> of use issues.
May I suggest that you report bugs for such issues if you find them :-)