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Re: [trinity-devel] HAL & udev 181-2: rule issues? long term plans for HAL & impact on TDE?

From: Pawel Soltys <sh4dou@...>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:49:44 +0100
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:58 AM, David C. Rankin
<drankinatty@...> wrote:
> Guys,
>  I don't know if this is worth looking into from a TDE standpoint or if it is
> still relevant, but HAL and udev stopped the boot process on my Arch box today.
> Calvin had the issue that I believe he solved by removing an offending udev
> rule[1]. That raised the question to me whether there is some standardization
> that HAL will require across distros in order to support TDE or if there is some
> part of udev that is needed to support HAL?
Calvin got it to work?

>  Arch no longer provides HAL as a standard package. I believe what triggered
> the boot fail today was the loss of the 'udev-compat' package (unconfirmed). I'm
> still digging into this, but if HAL will be required for TDE, then should we
> look into either insuring that a generic HAL version that is compatible with
> upstream udev is available to the project?
>  I don't know how HAL + udev affect TDE or what the long term thoughts are on
> either, but I thought I would raise the issues to those smarter than I am in
> case there is a looming issue coming down the road.
>  What say the experts? Is there any issue with HAL + udev on TDE, or is it just
> a matter of the individual distro TDE builders to sort out? What worries me is
> Arch no longer packages HAL and the version we have in the user supported
> repository (done by 'l0ner' -- thank you!) is hal 0.5.14-7 with a *900K patch*
> file. If this is where all the distros are ultimately going, we may be better
> served by deciding how to handle it now rather than waiting until we run into
> build problems later...
This may be an arch-only problem for a while. From what I understood
arch uses last bleeding-edge version of udev, where other distros are
using older version.
Trinity team doesn't maintain hal, so it is something for the hal
package maintainers to fix.
Anyway I'm looking into it. Since I haven't updated my arch box yet, I
recovered error that I was getting for some time, but never actually
figured that it could cause problems in the future:

everything.log.2:Feb  1 05:15:16 localhost udevd[141]:
RUN+="socket:..." support will be removed from a future udev release.
Please remove it from: /etc/udev/rules.d/90-hal.rules:2 and use
libudev to subscribe to events.

> Footnote [1]: (which we are still trying to determine exactly what he removed :)
> --
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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