> I've read over your comments ( these conf names are the > darndest confusing ambiguous buggers of all time). I will patch your > patch into min, then lets push them together as one? If you have that much energy, sure go ahead.... :) I know how naming conventions go. I look at some of the things I have done a few years later and I wonder where my mind was when I conjured up some variable names. :) But those two similar key names had me completely fooled for a long time. Although I changed the key name in my patch, let's change the key names in your patch as well. I notice the KControl Session Manager module includes a group box named "On Login." Why don't we place the new group box just below that group box and call the new group "On Logout"? Darrell