On 04/15/2012 07:22 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote: Sounds like we need to get R14.0 out the door ASAP, > even if it it slightly buggy, so that we can start working on more > fundamental problems. > > Thoughts are welcome! > > Tim OK, 'tempered..' NO, NO, NO, NO! I know I always come back to this, but it is always better to "get it right" even if it takes a bit longer, than to "get it out the door" and then pay the price of increased bug reports and support issues that can be completely avoided by simply taking a bit more time to begin with. I would propose that R14 NOT be release until: (1) libpng15 issues are fixed (digikam, etc..); and (2) it builds without '-fpermissive' on gcc47 Otherwise, we are releasing an R14 with no digikam, etc.. due to libpng15 and code that cannot be built on systems with the current gcc without fudging it. Also, there hasn't been confirmation that tde continues to operate normally with the dependencies built on gcc47. I would rather see a tde 3.5.13-3 than a 3.5.14-1. It just make sense to me to have the next release be solid and build on the current gcc. I don't think we will see another gcc upheaval for some time. With many distros moving to gcc47, I think we iron those issues out before release. That's just my cut on it. Spend a little more up-front, save a whole-lot-more on the backside... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.