> Also, I really, really hope this is NOT the cause (as it > would indicate TDE is somehow confusing gcc; i.e. gcc has a very hard to > trace bug), but try reversing this patch to see if the random crashes stop: > > http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdebase/commit/kdesktop/desktop.cc?id=30617b6fb78c56e76aedd1480429dd4e68da201a I'm starting X with startx and useSAK is irrelevant in that run level. Not arguing, just noting. :-) Nonetheless, I'll try a reverse patch and see what happens. Darrell