> Hi Darrell,
>
> I'm not going to address the technical content of your email, much of
> which I
> disagree with from a purely factual perspective, because I do not believe
> it
> is possible to make progress on technical topics when there is a wall of
> denial and negativity in the way. So I will instead focus on one specific
> thing
> you wrote which really tells the whole tale as to why it is currently
> infeasible to make progress on these matters:
>
> On Saturday, February 11, 2012 19:57:44 Darrell Anderson wrote:
>> The KDE4 developers do what they want.
>
> We do what we understand to be best given our resources, the requirements
> of
> today's applications
<snip>

I have repeatedly gone out of my way to state that KDE4 is a perfectly
valid desktop along with all the rest (Gnome, XFCE, etc). available for
Linux.  I have NEVER started a KDE4 bashing thread, and have always tried
to differentiate based on feature sets and workflows instead of claiming
that "TDE does everything".  Almost every major argument comes up as a
result of the KDE project bashing TDE or trying to replace core components
willy-nilly, as happened most recently.

That said, TDE users have a different opinion of how "today's
applications" should look, feel, smell, act, and quack. :-)  I don't see
any reason that this differing opinion should be treated any differently
than the continual ideological disagreement between the Gnome devs and the
KDE devs (e.g. how a file dialog should look and act)--politely, without
attempts to change user visible elements of the other desktop environment.

What seems to be lost here is that I actually went out of my way to add
the ability to use kwin4 in TDE.  Because I didn't replace twin outright
(even though I have outlined the steps many times before that would be
required to even consider replacement) Martin went off on a TDE bashing
spree.  If anything, this is immature.  I have repeatedly asked him for
the technical reasons that he considers twin changes to have "broken" it,
and I still do not have an answer.

I would hate to see you go; I do not have an issue with KDE4 (other than
that I personally have extreme difficulty using it in my daily work) or
with its developers.  With the exception of a few who want to squash the
TDE traitors at all cost, I have no issues whatsoever with the KDE
developers, and wish them the best of luck with their modern desktop
environment.

Timothy Pearson
Trinity Desktop Project