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Re: [trinity-devel] Poll

From: /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle@...>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:36:37 +0100
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:23:22 -0600
"Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...> wrote:

> > On Monday, February 13, 2012 12:04:42 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> >> I ask you this: If QWidget is so stable (i.e. did not change much
> >> between
> >> Qt3 and Qt4), why do Qt4/KDE4 applications always use more screen
> >> space to
> >> display less information?
> >
> > they don't; but where there is more whitespace usage it's due to the
> > QStyle. a
> > QStyle that using the same pixelmetrics as you are familiar with
> > from Qt3 would have the same layout and proportions. few people
> > like that, however, so
> > there are few styles as cramped.
> >
> >> Why do KDE4 applications tend to require more
> >> mouse clicks for each operation?
> >
> > they don't. see how easy it is to make assertions when no
> > supporting facts are
> > required?
> >
> > well, here:
> > http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/01/gwenview-user-friendly.html
> >
> >> Can you state 100% that the Qt4 developers did not modify widget
> >> parameters to be touch friendly?
> >
> > yes, i can. you may recall i worked at the same company as these
> > guys for 6
> > years, the years that happen to be in question.
> >
> >> You would have needed to be on the Qt4
> >> development team to be able to state this. :-)
> >
> > unfortunately for you, i worked with them extensively during this
> > time period.
> > i saw new things before others did, i worked with APIs before
> > others did, i
> > had long discussions with the developers as they were working on
> > things.
> 
> How is that unfortunate for me?  It is good to know the truth!
> 
> I already know the whitespace is embedded in the widget metrics.  If I
> needed to I could fix that one problem programatically, but it still
> leaves all the others open.
> 
> Remember I said *almost* all applications?  There are a handful that
> have finally grown up and become better than the KDE3 originals, but
> right now the only one I can think of is krdc.  It took many years,
> and their presence frankly does not justify using the rest of KDE4.
> 
> Also, you are trying to tell me that e.g. changing to the /media/flash
> directory requires fewer clicks in Dolphin than in Konqueror?  In
> Konqueror it would take exactly two mouse clicks, and if media/ was
> already expanded it would take one click.  In Dolphin I don't even
> know where to begin, other than poking around trying to get my
> location bar back.  Heck, I don't even know where to begin looking
> for that configuration option.
Since it's an USB key it will be in the Places panel ;)
Otherwise, there is no need to configure, just click right of the
hierarchy which is where the location bar should be. It converts this
hierarchy to a real location bar.
> 
> KDE4 has serious discoverability issues which are separate from the
> ease of use issues.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
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