Calvin, Pawel, Baho, The update to shadow 5 will break kdm do to a soname bump in libshadow. I have built a new source package with updated PKGBUILD for the old version and updated the pkgrel to 6. Grab the src tarball here: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/shadow_4.1.4.3-6.tar.gz The only change was to the PKGBUILD. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.