On 02/23/2012 10:23 AM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
>>> trinity is not software locally installed by the local
>> system admin?
>>
>> Right now it is - but very soon it will be installed from
>> mirrors, via
>> the package manager; users are expecting /usr/local to be
>> stuff installed by them not the package manager
> /usr/local is for the user. What users want to do with their /usr/local is for them to decide.
>
> Upstream maintainers are not supposed to install anything in /usr/local. When software is provided by upstream providers as part of a distribution's package system, then /usr/local is supposed to be off limits. Installing to /usr is preferred, but the appropriate installation location for non-standard packages that can't be installed in /usr is /opt. This guideline applies to distro maintainers and upstream providers, not the end user.
>
> Anybody packaging Trinity for self-use can install to /usr/local. The moment those packages are provided for others then /usr/local is inappropriate.
>
> Anyone building the Trinity packages for personal use only can install to /usr/local if desired. Start packaging for other users and /usr/local becomes inappropriate.

This is just until all the conflicts are hammered out?
After that all of this is mute point.

Again I use /usr/local so that I can move it to /usr very easily,  ever 
try cp -var /opt/tde into /usr?

rsync -var or cp -var /usr/local /usr works every time.  Everthing goes 
where it should.

>
> For myself I don't install any upstream provided packages in /usr/local because I use /usr/local for things I create on my own. I keep /usr/local on a separate partition, which keeps that file system separate from everything else. That is, /usr/local is mine and I do what I want there.

I have partitions that I mount to /usr/local.... working, wip, broken a 
little,  broken somewhat and very broken.

I also mount 3.5.10 when I need to and mount 3.5.12 when I working on it.

If say tde is broken I can just not mount it for the user till I get it 
fixed then remount it.

Also if I need to try something out I can mount the "in test" partition 
and if it don't work just mount the partition that works to /usr/local.

I build Trinity to install in /opt/trinity because I build my packages usable by other users with the same distro. If the upstream distro I use did not include KDE4 then I would build to install to /usr. If I was creating my own custom distro I would build to install in /usr because I would not include KDE4.



I do both....upstream distro, users with KDE4 and users without KDE4 and 
tde installed.
Then the only difference is /usr/local to /usr is just a cp away.