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Month: January 2011

Re: [trinity-devel] Adding more packages

From: Kristopher Gamrat <pikidalto@...>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:38:17 +0000
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf@...> wrote:
> a.) Have no use whatsoever on modern systems

Most of them do. Perhaps in need of updating to modernize them or add
a few missing features, but quite a few do. In fact, there's a KDE 3.4
program called KGreetingKard that would be of use, AFAIK there aren't
any other programs out there for Linux, the only other option is to
hack wine to run programs like PrintShop, PrintMaster, and
PrintArtist, which I'd imagine would be quite a hassle and apparently
one of the main things that pushed people away from Linux (having to
tweak stuff to make them work when they apparently work perfectly
under the rather imperfect and crappy Windows). Perhaps we can add it
to the list and update the dependencies at some point or another to
use KDE 3.5?

> b.) Have been fully replaced by more modern software

KDE3 has been replaced by more modern software. Problem is, KDE4
doesn't work very well, the visual styles aren't all that great, they
added in too many fanciful features, and AFAIK have yet to readd some
of the old stuff from KDE3 that people still want/need (I last used
KDE4.5, haven't checked the site lately, so they probably came out
with another release by now). Personally, I'm sticking with KDE3, and
I hope that Trinity will be around for quite some time.

> c.) Rely on old unmaintained libraries with no modern replacement

To get rid of the unmaintained libraries, you'd need to rewrite KDE3
to use Qt4. The Trinity wiki mentions the last release from Trolltech
(which handed Qt over to Nokia -- I wander what the people who use
their tech who only support proprietary would think if they found out
;-)) was 3.3.8b, which was quite some time ago, and we are already on
Qt4.7, so we'd definitely have a lot of work porting things over, and
that's something I don't think that would happen until Trinity makes
several more releases and starts pulling in more developers. I
certainly couldn't do it though, I can barely do the Hello World
example in the Qt4 tutorials, though it will be a consideration once I
feel comfortable handling large chunks of code.

> Tim

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